One of the realizations
that I got from Choque, Vol 1, is how strongly pro-wrestling/catch
wrestling influence was part of Brazilian jiu-jitsu from the
The pro-wrestling vs BJJ
modern debate which began with Sakuraba's wins over the Gracies,
continued with Rickson's victories over japanese pro wrestlers, and
currently continues after Josh Barnett's recent and easy victories
over eminent BJJ blackbelts, actually was the tip of an iceberg of a
close, historical relationship between both styles which goes deeper
than previously thought.
Choque was the first to
would be great if you could write more on the history of luta livre,
its differences with American/British Catch Wrestling, technical
differences with jiu-jitsu, etc."
book treats this topic in depth. For the
time being, here's what Rorion told Tatame magazine in
"Luta Livre é o
Jiu-Jitsu sem quimono, que começou esse negocio no Brasil nos
anos 1950. O Brasil já vinha nesse ritmo de porrada, de trocação.
A arte suave é parte technica do negocio, mas no Vale-Tudo, a
Luta Livre é o Jiu-Jitsu sem quimono, tambem lançado no
Brasil pela familia Gracie...Os
principios são os mesmos."
["Luta livre is
jiu-jitsu without kimono. This began in Brazil in the 1950's. Brazil
already had fighting and jiu-jitsu was a part of it. But vale-tudo, luta
livre is jiu-jitsu without kimono. Both were "launched" by the
Gracie family.....the principles of jiu-jitsu and luta livre are the
The Gracie family did not launch luta livre. Luta livre arrived in
Brazil in 1909, introduced by luta romana wrestlers. Luta livre
(literally, free fight) was the word used to describe a form of
professional stage wrestling that differed from the earlier form of
professional stage wrestling, known in Brazil as luta romana (which was upper-body
wrestling, now called Greco-Roman wrestling). Luta romana had become
boring and audiences wanted more exciting "fights". Luta livre
was the answer.
livre was in fact catch-as catch-can wrestling. In Brazil,
luta livre was generally used to mean "catch-as-catch-can".
Professional stage catch-as-catch-can was also sometimes called luta
livre americana when "troupes" of wrestlers began arriving in
1934 from North America. Subsequently luta livre was not a style, but simply meant
wrestling, by default free-style, unless otherwise identified, for
example luta romana. A luta romana wrestler might, for example, demand
to fight "luta livre" when he was really "angry"
with an especially loathsome and treacherous opponent. What he meant was
that he wanted to be permitted to use all and any holds, even slaps and
According to most observers, jiu-jitsu was simply a form
of luta livre, differing only in rules and that curious item of clothing
known as the "quimono".
livre "evolved" into mostly professional fake wrestling
beginning in 1934. Why? Because that's what people wanted to see, among
other reasons. No, they didn't want it to be fake. They wanted it
to be real. But they wanted action and a narrative (hero vs. heel), and
they didn't know the difference between fake and real. Wrestlers
provided what the fans wanted.
a form of professional wrestling luta livre matches could be "no
holds barred", which meant limited striking, real or otherwise,
mostly "otherwise", and
possibly chokes as well (thought to be too "dangerous" or
"dirty" for an honorable sport like wrestling).
livre became increasingly theatrical after World War Two. However there
were real fights too, during the 1950's, otherwise, but accurately known
as the Carlson Gracie Era. Carlson, unlike his uncle George, did not
fight fake fights. But he did, like his uncle, fight fake fighters. Why?
Because that's who people wanted to see him fight. He also fought real
fighters of course, especially Waldemar Santana, many times.
one real fighter who Carlson did not fight was Masahiko Kimura (木村政彦).
Kimura was willing to fight Carlson. It never happened. Why not? The
short story is that Carlson's father, Carlos, wanted too much
money. For the details, see Choque 2, chp. 10.
Gracie family did not launch this form of luta livre either. Unless by
"launch" you mean "take part in", which they did,
along with many other people (described in detail in Choque 2 and
3). The Gracie Academy (Carlos, Helio,
Carlson, Robson, and many students), as well as George and his students,
participated in most of the larger well-publicized programs. Carlos and
Helio also attempted to promote a more brutal form of the sport, but the
civic leaders, business community, and general public lacked their
vision. Luta livre continued evolving into pro wrestling, with some
notable exceptions, including Carlson Gracie.
the UFC began, Brazilians flocked to the opportunities. Gracie
affiliated academies had a virtual monopoly. In order to get in on the
action, a number of people attempted to create an alternative style (an
alternative to jiu-jitsu that is, which at that point was essentially synonymous with
the name Gracie, because all the original jiu-jitsu people had either died off
or become judokas).
alternative style people called their style luta livre, and many people
outside of Brazil assumed that this so-called luta livre was actually a
"style", with its own techniques, as different from jiu-jitsu
as jiu-jitsu was from wrestling. It sort of was, and sort of
it was was wrestling combined with submissions, optionally mixed in with
kick boxing (which some jiu-jitsu guys did too, Carlson Gracie and
Waldemar Santana, most famously).
that they didn't coin the name "Luta Livre". They simply
adopted it as the name for the hybrid system they were practicing.
watched some luta livre classes at Mario Miglio's academy in Copacabana back in 1999, and they
seemed a lot like jiu-jitsu without a kimono top, although they wore
kimono pants, and belts too. The main difference was that they
practiced double-leg take-downs; (see Jiu-Jitsu in the South Zone
chp. 26, picture below).
the Tatame interview cited at the top of this article, Rorion
specifically mentioned Marco Ruas (picture below). In fact, he earlier mentioned Marco
on Gracies in Action, where he is shown fighting jiu-jitsu black
belt Fernando Pinduka
to a draw. Pinduka (a student of Carlson), was unable to defeat Marco
because Marco "knew just enough" ["to avoid a
massacre"], according to Rorion.
Marco did exactly what Rener, Ryron, and (sometimes) Rickson advocate.
He survived. By their logic, he won the fight because he didn't lose.
(Read Rener, Ryron, and Rickson here). In
fact he did a bit more than survive. He expertly stymied Pinduka's
efforts to mount. Marco apparently knew what logically followed a
mounted position: Punches to the face. When you turn over to avoid the
punches, that's when the choke goes in.
described Marco in Gracies in Action as a boxer. Marco was
a kick boxer, but also trained Defesa pessoal [self defense], judô,
Tae Kwon Do, Capoeira, Boxe, Luta Livre, among others, he said in an
interview with Lutador magazine in 1997, blending it all together
into his own unbeatable style, Ruas Vale Tudo. But that was after
Pinduka. Before Pinduka, Marco was a kick boxer who knew how to
survive on the ground. According to Rener and Ryron, he won the
no, The Gracie family didn't launch luta livre if by luta livre you mean
what luta livre meant when it first came to Brazil. If you mean the
1950's version of luta livre, they didn't launch that either, but they
were on the scene. If you mean the luta livre that emerged post-UFC 1,
then yes, they (and Art Davie) played a role in launching
details on the topics mentioned above, see Choque Vol.1-3, and
Roberto's forthcoming book on this
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1. The first volume is scheduled to
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