Feb. 1, 2001
Q: We've seen
you for a long time in the Rickson Gracie Jiu-Jitsu Tournament.
You've been very active in competition, haven't you?
For sure. After Rickson's tournament, in September I competed in
Cesar Gracie's event in Santa Cruz, California.
Q: Was it a
Cleber: No, it
was a one match submission fight, no gi and no striking.
other words, Abu Dhabi style?
right. I fought someone named Gu Kashiru (????) and won. After
that, I won the Machado tournament. That was also Abu Dhabi
Q: It seems
that lately there are lots of competitions to enter, other than
just jiu-jitsu competitions.
are increasing, I think. And so, the number of fighters who are
training to fight under no gi rules is also increasing.
Q: What rules
do you personally prefer to fight under?
rules are ok with me. But if I had to chose, vale tudo suits me
Q: It seems you
have your own dojo. How is it going?
well, and getting better. I have about 150 students now.
I just opened a new dojo in Long Beach, California. When I'm
finished teaching here, I go to Long Beach and teach there.
really busy, aren't you?
very true. I spend all day every day teaching and doing my own
Q: By the way,
I hear that your teacher Royler Gracie will be in Japan to fight
on January 8 fight against a former shoot boxing champion.
what I heard too. I don't know much about Royler's opponent. but
he'll probably be about the same weight, won't he? Royler will
win for sure. I have no doubt. Because Royler's technique is the
best. Everything considered, Rickson is the best, but pound for
pound, Royler is the top.
received your black belt from Royler, didn't you?
right. Royler is a very demanding teacher so getting a black
belt from him is something to be proud of, I think.
Q: Because of
that, you'll continue fighting, like Royler does?
Exactly! Even when I'm 40, even when I'm 50, I'll keep on
fighting. To be that kind of fighter, it is necessary to train
Q: Thanks for
talking with me today.